Here is a very interesting post from Tommy Ramirez - a Caban cousin:
"I have been doing much more research and have found that the Cabans
were involved with the Sosa’s who founded Aguadilla. But they are Irish
in origin not Jewish. And they were In Puerto Rico many decades before
the founding of Aguadilla. One account I found was in an article about
Don Juan de la Rosa Velazco y Hernandez del Rio(?-1820, who was born in
Santo Domingo and came to Puerto Rico. He was married to Dona Rosa
Olavarria y Caban(1747-1843) in Aguada. Dona Rosa Olavarria y Caban was
daughter of Don Juan Baustista Olavarria, who was a native of Bilbao
Spain. Her mother was Dona maria Caban y de Aviles, who was born in
Aguada.
“El apelllido Caban, no es de procedencia espanola. Es un
apellodo solariego irlandes que en su origen se escribia “carvan” y que
sufrio alteraciones en su escritura, segun el genealogista Rafael
Reichard Sapia. Esta familia es muy Antigua y hoy se encuenta disminada
por toda esta Zona oeste.”
To Tommy - and our other cousins:
There IS a Cavan County in Ireland. In Spanish the "v" is pronounced "b" so an Irish tie wouldn't at all surprise me.
Being female a DNA test would only tell me about ancient mitochondrial DNA. There have been DNA tests taken by our male cousins and here is a list of the results, starting with Tommy.
1. Tommy Ramirez:
Thank you I looked at the link but didn’t find
much information there. I have since done a DNA test and found that I am
Italian , Greek ,Spaniard, African ( from various locations in Africa), Irish ,
Taino) the farthest I have gone back in my family tree is to Raimundo Caban who
married severa antonia maria segui ( she was born in St Agustine florida, when
it was a Spanish colony) and on another branch of the family Sinforian Caban
who was married to Laureana Acevedo De Caban
2.Annonymous: Family Tree DNA - confirms as follows Haplogroup I2a -Shorthand I-P 37.2 with following Test
M161- M170+ M21- M22- M227- M253- M258+ M26- M307- M72- P19+ P30- P37.2+ P38+
3. Randy Caban: Hi this is Randy Caban and I can confirm as a member of FamilyTree DNA that the published DYS values are the same as mine.
4. CabanR (Randy?): "Hi interested in your posting and I also have been curious about the Caban origins - I can shed some new light having done Y DNA testing myCaban heritage traces back to Ireland - they have a county in Ireland call Cavan
county - I also thought they were French but there is more to that
having Polish origins is another mystery but the Y DNA also indicates
Haplogroup I1b originating in the what are the Balkans in Europe
My grandfather Manuel Caban-Vera is a descent of the Caban
santeros who settled Camuy-Quebradillas area. Manuel was born in
Quebradillas - with DNA testing Y chromosome from the male the
Haplogroup ia I1b - originating in the Balkans - they are also Celts -
as the DNA mutations show origins in Ireland with matches - There is a
county in Ireland call
Cavan county during the Irish disporta - Royal Decree of Grace - 1815 the Caban santeros are known from about 1850 to 1950 as multi-generational family of santeros."
5. Lucita: I have a
4th great-grandfather, Alejandro Caban. I had my Mtdna done. I also
convinced one of my male cousins to have the Y-DNA test done. Here are
the results:
DYS# 393 390 19* (aka 394) 391 385a 385b 426 388 439 389-1 392 389-2
I will say again that I can't read these figures, butif someone can break this down I will be happy to publish it as a post rather than a commentary!
Thank you EVERYBODY for taking an interest in our mysterious family roots!!
4 comments:
Hello familia. My name is Luis Manuel Cubero Caban. My grandfather was one of the santeros, Manuel Caban. I came across this website looking into my ancestry and am very happy to come across this site. I will be moving to Puerto Rico later this year and I am surely going to look into my Caban family roots over there. Best wishes. Luis.
Hola Luis! Welcome to this blog! Anything you can add to it - information, history, observations, chit-chat - is most welcome. Best regards, Shar
Great job! Hello Randi, Manuel Caban Vera was son of Juana Vera Nieves (1851-1935), daughter of Moncerrate Nieves Caban (1826-1913), of Maria de la Paz Caban, daughter of Juan Caban. So Manuel was Caban in his mother side to. Any information please post. God bless you all.
Juan Bautista Olavarria and Maria Caban y de Aviles are on my family tree as well. Can you tell me of any resources besides ancestry.com you would have used to find information on them.
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